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017_Donna Buang by SemanticOne 017_Donna Buang by SemanticOne

017_Donna Buangby SemanticOne

Crossing Mount Donna Buang, mid-eastern Victoria. I pretty fresh water spring.

^___^ Finally got to use my new tripod and long exposure.
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NightSheep Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Pretty good outcome Ryan. The photo is not over lighted while most beginners tend to overlight such photo's. (well, a little bit on the top right... but it is not annoying or something in my opinion). So a big applause :clap:!

But in my opinion this photo would be even bit more stunning if the green was bit more saturated. (well... you are a digital graphical expert. You know howto :D)
SemanticOne Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2010  Student Interface Designer
Thanks so much, *insertihaven'tcaughtyournameyethere*

It was hard to avoid the overlighting unfortunately, because it was in cloudless, broad daylight. I'm still waiting for the opportunity to do a long exposure with even morning or evening light. Maybe when I go to Queensland this March...

thanks for the critique, and you're right about the vibrance of the greens - Photoshop for some reason looks so good, and then the saved file it really desaturated... I'll try to fix it.
NightSheep Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
About the morning and evening light... google for the words "Golden Hour". It will open your eyes and you will immediately understand why I said you have to google for it.

As for the differences in colors between photoshop and here: it all has to do with color spaces.

Most browsers on the internet are sRGB minded. So they can display sRGB photo's perfectly without any differences from Photoshop or any other imaging tool that supports sRGB.

But unfortunately, Photoshop also supports other color spaces. The most then used is AdobeRGB. But mostly not supported by browsers.

What happens here is: when you are working in Photoshop using AdobeRGB and save the picture... and then try to review it in a browser, the browser needs to "convert" it to sRGB. And because of this conversion, the colors will look different. (usually it will look dull if converted from AdobeRGB -> sRGB).

So... where does this AdobeRGB color spaces comes from?

Well... you can first at all set it on your camera. If you have set your colorspace to AdobeRGB on your camera, on import to your PC, the colorspace will remain AdobeRGB.

Secondly, Adobe Camera Raw (the screen you get when importing RAW files into Photoshop) tend to convert by default photo's to AdobeRGB as well. At that Adobe Camera Raw screen, you will see which colorspace is set down middle in blue.

Last but not least... you can tell photoshop which colorspace it should use by default. So when you open any image... it will convert (or ask for it) to the choosen colorspace. This can be set at: Edit -> Color settings (Shift+Ctrl+K). Then set "Working Spaces, RGB" to sRGB IEC61966-2.1 (if it isn't already).

At "Color Management Policies" set "RGB" to "Convert to working RBG".

But really... you have to find out first why the image is in something different then sRGB in the first place. Have you set it on your camera? Or does it happen during import (Adobe Camera Raw).

To check which colorspace your image has... you can use adobe bridge. Just open the photo using Adobe Bridge and look in it's meta-data or info. You will see the color space information as well.

(after you have absorb all this information, you could google for "Color space aware browser". But what good does it do if you are the only one with a color space aware browser? The images will only look good on your PC, not at other's :D)
SemanticOne Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2010  Student Interface Designer
Holy shit... all I can say is thanks you. Professional tips ftw.

I have known about sRGB and AdobeRGB for a while, and have seen it in photoshop, but I haven't really understood it - until now. I now know where a lot of my problems arise from, because I use Adobe Lightroom to develop my photos (I find it easier to use and better than Camera Raw) and from there export it as a .tiff to photoshop without saving. I now see that doing this sends the image straight to the adobeRGB colour format, and hence roubles arise. I think I can overcome this now by saving he images from lightroom as sRGB, then opening them separately in photoshop so as to keep that sRGB format. I'll definitely give it a shot when I next develop my photos!

and thank you again, because I can now put a name to the face f Golden Hour. I did know about this, as well, but reading that wiki page about it showed me just why it is so awesome... now just need to get out there and shoot shoot shoot!
NightSheep Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
In Lightroom goto Edit -> Preferences (CTRL+,). Now goto the tab called "External editing". Change the color space from AdobeRGB to sRGB.

Now everything you send from Lightroom to Photoshop will be in sRGB colorspace. Wohooooooooooooooo! :boogie:

Looking forward to your new photo's ;)
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